Paying for WVO

[Jed196]

Good Morning Guys,

That time is here in my area. I am forces to offer money for my oil in order have enough to function. I am thinking of offering a per gallon/per month payment. I've been thinking .25-.30 per gallon.

Do any of you pay and do you pay per gallon?

Does anyone know what rendering Companies pay?

Thanks

[HORSEMOVER]

Most rendering companies in my area are not paying - except for the very large places they collect from. Most places just get the dumpster provided by the renderer and they take the oil for free.

[Jack_Toepfer]

I know some of the sellers in my area sell by the pound. I think that is easier to monitor and more accurate.

[Jed196]

HORSEMOVER,

Yeah, that's what I'm use to seeing also. But lately I've seen a couple smaller operations offered a per gallon price. I want to get ahead of it and stay marketable.

[Marv]

Good Morning Guys,

That time is here in my area. I am forces to offer money for my oil in order have enough to function. I am thinking of offering a per gallon/per month payment. I've been thinking .25-.30 per gallon.

Do any of you pay and do you pay per gallon?

Does anyone know what rendering Companies pay?

Thanks

Jed, the common rate I've heard is $0.12 to $0.15/pound of oil. However, I'm sure that varies by area. You're suggested offer isn't bad and is what I've considered a couple times. I think if you use the common rate I listed, it'd equate to about $0.96 to $1.20 per gallon. That's using a rough estimate of 8lbs/gallon.

Right now, I don't pay for oil, but might have to start in the somewhat near future. I'm surprised more places aren't paying for oil up that way. Seems to be pretty common down in the south.

Good luck!

[Hooter]

When is the oil volume for the bill added up? Seems to me that if the restaurant was getting paid for their oil they would put a little water in that tank or "accidentally" forget to shut the lid on a rainy day in order to get a little bigger check.

[Marv]

When is the oil volume for the bill added up? Seems to me that if the restaurant was getting paid for their oil they would put a little water in that tank or "accidentally" forget to shut the lid on a rainy day in order to get a little bigger check.

Hooter I've wondered the same thing myself as to how they track quantity at each restaurant.

Only thing I figure is that they have a flow meter of some sort that tells them how much they are pulling from the dumpsters.

[Clay]

Some places hare are just getting quarterly checks reguardless of the volume of oil...not big checks either. less than 25 bucks per quarter.
Don't know how they would measure the lbs. of oil they collect in order to pay for it that way.

[HORSEMOVER]

Guess I was typing while Clay was but same line of thinking

Why not just offer to pay them an annual or quarterly flat rate if you are going to have to pay? Seems like a $100 bill or $25 a quarter might do the trick to keep the oil flowing. Currently my suppliers are happy to let me have it for free as they get nothing for it now and they can get rid of that big ugly dumpster. Three of my collection stops were thrilled when I told them that they no longer needed to keep that grease dumpster. They really view those things as an eyesore and for small places it sometimes takes up an additional parking space which is already limited. Let me know what you guys come up with - don't have any issues currently but I realize this is starting to change.

[Clay]

Don't forget that this (IMHO) will turn around someday.
Yellow Grease is a commodity traded on the market and just like oil, the price can rise and fall. Recently it has risen due to the high price of oil (almost 200 bucks last summer) causing a larger demand for bio fuels worldwide. The grease collected here in the US is sent to 3rd world countries and sold for a huge profit but it saves these poor countries a few cents over paying for regular diesel. Now that oil is down, the price of grease should follow suit.
Its really sickening actually, we import the vegi oil mostly, fry some chicken in it, and ship the old stuff back....they profit from us twice on it, meanwhile your chicken cost more because they pass this cost down to us, the consumers. This is a story you could pass along to your sources and they might just get pissed enough to let you have it so it wont aid the continued fleecing of america.

[greasyX]

Korenco and baker commodities should be brought behind the wood shed and shot like the stubborn mules they are....greasy

[powerstroke73L]

Korenco and baker commodities should be brought behind the wood shed and shot like the stubborn mules they are....greasy

Goes both ways really. Rendering companies have been around a lot longer than us and waste oil has a lot of uses besides fuel-lubricants, leather treatments, animal feeds, waterproofing agents, cosmetics (think about that the next time you kiss your wife!), etc... As much as it frustrates the hell out of us those guys have to eat too. However, if you can provide the quickest, easiest, most hassle free service, you're more likely to keep customers. When you're running a restaurant, worrying about getting rid of your waste oil is the last thing you want to have think about-you just want it to happen. Most places just want it gone and don't care that much about getting a check because unless they're putting out 50 gallons a week it ain't amounting to much.

Here's something I posted over at Infopop a while ago:

Providing Superior Service-Or "Why The Sky Isn't Falling"

Lots of folks lament the fact that the "cat is out of the bag" and it's too tough to find WVO these days. While I agree that this free exchange of information, the media, ever rising fuel costs, etc...don't make it any easier, it's still possible to find free fuel. Case in point. I started collecting from a small pizza joint near my house when I was still living at home. The guy had two drums from a renderer out back but no contract-he was on a "call for pickup" arrangement. He jumped at the chance when I offered to pick up his oil because he had been burned one too many times by the company with the drums. He would call when they were close to full and more than once the company didn't show up for a week or more-which meant he had no place to dump his oil in the meantime.

Just recently he called the company to tell them to come and get their drums. When they asked why he simply told them that he had someone who brought him buckets and picked up like clockwork every two weeks. They came to get the drums and when they found them empty they left them there and sent a letter instead asking saying that if someone was "stealing" his oil that they wanted to know about it, etc... He called back to tell them that no one was stealing the oil and that he wanted the damn drums out of there yesterday!

My point is that this guy knows he can count on me-he has my cell phone number and can reach me anytime if he needs a pickup. Not to mention the fact that I patronize his business-the renderer does not.

[VTVegiPower]

I like the way you think greasyx, but unfortunately this isn't a Clint Eastwood flick. I agree with the general that they are trying to run a business and there are other uses for WVO. I am having luck so far taking over their customers with professionalism, cleanliness, and being a local user. Restuarants do hate those ugly, messy dumpsters and barrels. I exchange barrels so there is always a clean, sealed one out back. I got a college today because not only are they still being charged by Baker, but one time a Baker collector yelled at one of the kitchen staff because he saw a couple cubies set aside for a local greaser. Here in VT local business still means a lot, usually more than a little money for waste grease. As I have said on here before I am offering to pay /gallon to secure good sources though, it is coming to that no matter what so I am getting my foot in the door.

[greasyX]

The Irony is my name is HARRY,short for Harold...........

[VTVegiPower]

Greasy Harry! nice