Pumping oil out of barrels in the cold NE temps?

[billman]

I know this is off topic kind of, but has anyone had success pumping oil out of barrels in the cold NE temps? If so what do you use? I will start a new thread if needed.

[greasyX]

I will put 2000-3000 gallons in 55 to 60 gallon barrels,before snow,then bring into my heated storage for later use.Pumping in the winter in NH is for the birds......I'll be by the fire,with my laptop and the latest diesel power mag.............

[Clay]

I will start a new thread if needed.

already done :cheers:

[powerstroke73L]

Build yourself a sucker tank-no power source needed. I have a 40 gallon tank made from an old propane tank that I pull a 25" vacuum on using a simple Coleman camping mattress pump. Works like a charm in the coldest of weather.

[Hooter]

If your supplier is using the ph oil, I would suggest a shovel and an idiot kid that will work for cheap

[waytallwhitey]

Build yourself a sucker tank-no power source needed. I have a 40 gallon tank made from an old propane tank that I pull a 25" vacuum on using a simple Coleman camping mattress pump. Works like a charm in the coldest of weather.

Can you give a more detailed description and maybe some pics????

[powerstroke73L]

Can you give a more detailed description and maybe some pics????

http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/159605551/m/2141024552?r=2141024552#2141024552

There are tanks out there that are much bigger than mine, but the above is a link to some pictures and a description. If you search the infopop forums for "SUPER SUCKER" you'll get everything from mine to 500 gallon propane tanks on trailers.

[billman]

thanks for the replies and thanks chenry for starting the new thread.

[FastCote]

I have a thread over on powerstoke.org here:

http://www.powerstroke.org/forum/bio-diesel-alternative-fuels-supplements/58472-super-sucker-work-progress.html

There is even a video link at the end showing it in action.

I was thinking of dragging it over to this forum if there was interest.

[FastCote]

For those that don't want to read through all five pages (most of you likely) here is the gist of it:


crappy old 60 gallon compressor tank.

PLUS


Cheap ($15) Harbor Freight compressor driven vacuum pump.

PLUS


a couple of quick connect fittings

PLUS


Big A$$ suction hose (2 inch by 20 feet)

[FastCote]

Finished product



http://s304.photobucket.com/albums/n...VacuumTank.flv

Vacuum tank in action. That's ~50 gallons of cold oil in about a HALF A MINUTE!

[greasyX]

how much time involved to build 250 gallon version?.........greasy

[waytallwhitey]

OK, I'm still a neophyte to all of this; but with a vaccuum arrangement can you hit more than one source without recharging your tank? How hard is it to discharge the oil? There are several obvious advantages, are there any disadvantages?

[FastCote]

It's all about how good a vacuum you can pull. Absolute is just under 30" mercury (i think). The better your vacuum pump, the closer you can get to absolute. As you can see from my links, I got the cheapest pump arrangement I could get. It uses my air compressor through a venturi to pull vacuum. this is neither portable (I have to do it in garage), quick (takes a good 15 minutes to get down to around 27". exponentially longer from there), not efficient (I am sure compressing air using a cheap sears compressor, then blowing it out at 8 cfm is not the best method).

All that said it works and it is easy. If you look at the pic with the venturi, you can see it has quick disconnects on it. On the tank, I have the mating connect. I plug the venturi on to charge vacuum, then take it off and plug the compressor straight on to put a little (LITTLE - remember that ) pressure. Crack open the suctiion hose valve and blast it right into the slop oil drum.

I actually used this in reverse once. The video you see is a drum full of oil with a gallon of boil-out (lye) in it. after shooting the video, i charge the tank with a little air, drove to Dairy Queen, and blasted it into their oil dumpster. It actually SMOKED as it came out. Back to the LITTLE pressure part. I put too much in and when i cracked the valve it exploded out and sprayed the entire building down with crap oil - OOPS!

[billman]

I built the sucker tank with a 420# old propane tank. I used 1-1/2" hose and was able to score a refridgerator compressor to pull a vac to 21 hg. I pulled about 60 + gal of thick softserve looking stuff this morning in 20 degree temps in about 5-8 min. I saw the power of a sucker on oil via utube, but am more impressed with the power to pull in the cold temps. All I can say is holy suction!!