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    Wondering how long it takes most of you to filter 55 gallons. Specifically running it through your filters/centrifuge. Reason is I think my oil is so dirty it takes me about 3-4 hours to run 55 gallons through a 30 micron followed by a 5 micron filter with a 1.5 hp pump. Wondering if this is excessively long time if I should search out cleaner oil?

    Also wondering if a centrifuge would clean it easier/quicker?

    Thanks

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    oc-50,55 gallons, 50 micron pre-filter.heated filtered to 1 micron in 2 hours.this also removes water and boil-out......grease out
    2000 7.3X V3 So much fun,so little time,Support small Oil,burn WVO,Free and greasy down the road I go!!!!!!!!!!completely self sufficient and proud of it. (Wood furnace.....X.......solar pontoon....solarsheat twins this summer.....I don't Know much.......I'm just a hillbilly with too many guns..............

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    • #3
      Welcome to the froum Grnbldr (Green Builder)
      There are so many different ways we filter, thats really a loaded question. Its ok for some to filter to 10 microns, some 5, some 1 micron. And when it comes to water some think its ok for 10 or so bubbles on a quarter sized spot, some strive for Zero bubbles.
      I can filter 55 gallons with my centrifuge to zero water with 4 passes in 25 minutes. Its a big centrifuge.
      What system of filtering do you have now?
      Elvia the HandyMan
      2000 F350 7.3 XL Dually utility/service truck
      V3 March 2008

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      • #4
        Originally posted by GRNBLDR View Post
        Wondering how long it takes most of you to filter 55 gallons. Specifically running it through your filters/centrifuge. Reason is I think my oil is so dirty it takes me about 3-4 hours to run 55 gallons through a 30 micron followed by a 5 micron filter with a 1.5 hp pump. Wondering if this is excessively long time if I should search out cleaner oil?

        Also wondering if a centrifuge would clean it easier/quicker?

        Thanks
        I can only filter about 50 gallons at a clip just because I centrifuge in a 55 gallon drum, but I get clean oil in about an hour and a half. See my thread on combining a cold uplflow settling system with a centrifuge. By combining the two, by the time the oil gets to the centrifuge barrel, most of the junk and water has settled out. The centrifuge is mostly for polishing. I added a Goldenrod on the end of my setup (before the fill hose) just as a safety measure though.
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        • #5
          I just ran ~ 45-50 heated gallons through 25 - 10 - 1 micron filters in 15- 20 minutes
          2001 F250 Crew Cab V3 Conversion

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          • #6
            Originally posted by GRNBLDR View Post
            Wondering how long it takes most of you to filter 55 gallons. Specifically running it through your filters/centrifuge. Reason is I think my oil is so dirty it takes me about 3-4 hours to run 55 gallons through a 30 micron followed by a 5 micron filter with a 1.5 hp pump. Wondering if this is excessively long time if I should search out cleaner oil?

            Also wondering if a centrifuge would clean it easier/quicker?

            Thanks
            Welcome to the forum. GrnBldr are you pre filtering your oil first? Some pour through a jeans filter first prior to putting it in their system to heat, settle, and dewater. Then they do their fine filtering.
            2000 F250 7.3L
            Vegistroke installed July 12, 2008

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            • #7
              Originally posted by triplemoutdoors View Post
              Some pour through a jeans filter first prior to putting it in their system to heat, settle, and dewater.
              Yep. I'm on a much slower schedule than the centrifugers - I pour through jean filters with a thermo element in the bottom of the drum and let it sit for 3days undisturbed... I fill with a barrel hand pump (sweat equity anyone?) through a goldenrod, I use ~3-4KwH per ~35-40gallon fillup (I leave the draw tube about 1ft off the bottom).

              Do you guys have to take time to empty/clean out the centrifuge in between cycles? or do you just clean it once after multiple passes?

              Lastly, w/o thread-jacking, anyone running a centrifuge take KwH readings from start to finish? Just curious how 3-4 days of on/off thermo vs 25min of full on centrifuging compares... I could be in the market...
              2002 PSD 7.3L CC SRW 123K, V2

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              • #8
                Originally posted by powerstroke73L View Post
                ... I added a Goldenrod on the end of my setup (before the fill hose) just as a safety measure though.
                I tried pumping with a Goldenrod on the end of the air-powered barrel pump. I am pretty sure the oil was well settled and i shortened the pickup tube to only reach half way down. Oil was at Ohio ambient temp yesterday (~80). It pumped about ten gallons and the goldenrod plugged up. Would you guys expect this? Like I said, I am pretty sure the oil was clean and dry.
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                • #9
                  p.s. - the air pump only operates are around 10 psi. I thinking (hoping) that the low oil temp and some partially hydrogenated plugged up the goldenrod and NOT water or crud.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by FastCote View Post
                    I thinking (hoping) that the low oil temp and some partially hydrogenated plugged up the goldenrod and NOT water or crud.
                    You're probably right - Just heat the oil to ~100+f and try again?

                    If it's still clogged, then:

                    Hot Pan Test from your barrel to check the water content?

                    Do you pre-filter into your barrel at all or is the goldenrod the 1st source of filtering in your setup? If you don't pre-filter, do you have any pickup screens on the bottom of your draw tube or any other point of restriction in your setup that could have clogged before the goldenrod itself? Could a french fry be jammed somewhere,etc?

                    I wouldn't expect the goldenrod to clog. I just filled 35 gallons yesterday at 89deg F (oil temp) with no problems (w/~ 125gal through this filter so far). Maybe try putting very slight back pressure on the fill end then check the filter/housing for any sediment and other debris that might have clogged it (drain the housing if there's alot and setup a pre-filter) - or at the very least, perhaps free up any other clogs in your system?

                    Careful backflushing - too much pressure could stir things up in your settling drum...
                    2002 PSD 7.3L CC SRW 123K, V2

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                    • #11
                      This was actually a barrel that went through a simplecentrifuge twice so I am pretty sure it is water and gunk free. I DO, however have a bunch of PHO in the oil i collect and i centrifuge HOT so it gets through and re forms after cooling. Am thinking its the hydrogenated that gunked the goldenrod.

                      Like i said the barrel pump is only 10 psi.

                      You guys with goldenrods on the fill hose, do you just hook up a clearwater pump and blast it through, or do you have a recirc line goign back into the drum? Those blue pumps are pretty high flow!
                      2005 F350 Harley: Heat Induction Hood, ARE Bed Cover, DashHawk, MBRP turbo back, cat delete, SCT: Tunes by Spartan, Exhaust Sound Videos HERE

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                      • #12
                        By the way, just to stray back towards topic, My centrifuge is dialed in to flow around 10 - 15 gallons per hour at as close to 150 degrees as I can manage. From what I have read on other forums, this is a nice compromise.

                        That puts me up around 5 hours for a barrel.
                        2005 F350 Harley: Heat Induction Hood, ARE Bed Cover, DashHawk, MBRP turbo back, cat delete, SCT: Tunes by Spartan, Exhaust Sound Videos HERE

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Elvia View Post
                          Welcome to the froum Grnbldr (Green Builder)
                          There are so many different ways we filter, thats really a loaded question. Its ok for some to filter to 10 microns, some 5, some 1 micron. And when it comes to water some think its ok for 10 or so bubbles on a quarter sized spot, some strive for Zero bubbles.
                          I can filter 55 gallons with my centrifuge to zero water with 4 passes in 25 minutes. Its a big centrifuge.
                          What system of filtering do you have now?
                          It is pumped into a 30 micron house filter immediately followed by a 5 micron house filter into my "clean barrel". Filtered oil is then pumped in my tank, through a Donaldson filter. This last process is TWO HOURS with a new filter. I'm thinking centrifuge is the way to go, no?

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                          • #14
                            time is money,and no worries about boil-out with the centrifuge
                            2000 7.3X V3 So much fun,so little time,Support small Oil,burn WVO,Free and greasy down the road I go!!!!!!!!!!completely self sufficient and proud of it. (Wood furnace.....X.......solar pontoon....solarsheat twins this summer.....I don't Know much.......I'm just a hillbilly with too many guns..............

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by greasyX View Post
                              time is money,and no worries about boil-out with the centrifuge
                              Can you elaborate on this?

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