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    can you use shorting? i saw some at the chicken joint around the house today and was wandering exactly what types of oils can the v3 run on.


    truck type is a 03' f-250, 6.0L with no extra frills.

    thanks
    cj

  • #2
    Originally posted by stymous222 View Post
    can you use shorting? i saw some at the chicken joint around the house today and was wandering exactly what types of oils can the v3 run on.


    truck type is a 03' f-250, 6.0L with no extra frills.

    thanks
    cj
    By "shortening" do you mean partially hydrogenated oil?

    If so, yes, you can use them and some folks do - but, I wouldn't recommend it any other time than summer. Personnally I try to avoid them.

    From what I've heard, certain PH oils can set up solid at room temps, so think about what that would do to your fuel lines. If kept up to temp, I think they'll burn fine, but the minute the temp drops, you could be in for trouble.
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    • #3
      Your V3 will get plenty hot to burn PH oil at 20 below. Pure shortnihg i have no experience with but it would also work if given enough time in a well heated tank to liquify.
      However it will be a huge PITA to work with for collection and filtration - it will be solid and you will have to use a huge scoop to collect it from a barrel then heat/melt it to pump it into a settling drum. After that point, as long as you can keep it in liquid form untill you get it in your tank, it will send you down the road just fine.
      I avoid it personally.

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      • #4
        oil

        would it be "partially hydrogenated oil" if it was liquid form at room temp. i looked at it but could not tell if it was partially hydrogenated or shorting. the shorting i am used to comes in a can and is a white paste. this that i looked at was new and was liquid at room temp., but it said shorting on the side of the box. i am corn-fused.

        thanks

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        • #5
          Originally posted by stymous222 View Post
          would it be "partially hydrogenated oil" if it was liquid form at room temp. i looked at it but could not tell if it was partially hydrogenated or shorting. the shorting i am used to comes in a can and is a white paste. this that i looked at was new and was liquid at room temp., but it said shorting on the side of the box. i am corn-fused.

          thanks

          Eh, it's hard to say for sure what it is without seeing the label.

          What kind of source are you getting this oil from and what do they typically cook?
          Greasin & Grinin
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          2006 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Vegistroke converted 1/27/13!!
          2008 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Sold
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          • #6
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            marv,
            the place is chester fried chicken. they fry a bunch of chicken and potato logs and the such things. it is in a gas station.

            if it is liquid a room temp. new would it be liquid at room temp. when it is waste?

            cj

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            • #7
              Originally posted by stymous222 View Post
              marv,
              the place is chester fried chicken. they fry a bunch of chicken and potato logs and the such things. it is in a gas station.

              if it is liquid a room temp. new would it be liquid at room temp. when it is waste?

              cj

              CJ, almost sounds like you've got regular vegi oil...have you asked them exactly what it is they're ordering?

              Ask them to see one of the cubes that the oil comes in originally. It should tell you pretty quick what you're dealing with.
              Greasin & Grinin
              Vegi oil powered since Aug 08
              2006 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Vegistroke converted 1/27/13!!
              2008 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Sold
              2005 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Sold

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              • #8
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                marv,
                i looked at one of the cubes and it said plain as day shorting on the box. it did not look as clear as vegi-oil but milky and dark. also i am not really sure if i was looking at used or new oil. i am going to get some in the next week. i will let you know.

                thanks
                cj

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                • #9
                  Sounds like something i would avoid.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by CHenry View Post
                    Sounds like something i would avoid.

                    Yeah, same here...milky and dark sound like a bad description...haha.
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                    2006 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Vegistroke converted 1/27/13!!
                    2008 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Sold
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                    • #11
                      I just picked up a cubie of "Sysco Liquid Frying Shortening" and unless it's another type of oil in the cubie it seems to be separating just fine (oil and water) and is very liquid at room temperature. I figure if I'm mixing it with enough regular oil it should work just fine at colder temps. I'm going to put it outside and see what happens-it's been around 0 degrees the past few nights here!
                      Late 1999 F350 CC LB ZF6
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                      • #12
                        Look at the box closer - I believe that is just canola oil.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by biostroker View Post
                          I just picked up a cubie of "Sysco Liquid Frying Shortening" and unless it's another type of oil in the cubie it seems to be separating just fine (oil and water) and is very liquid at room temperature. I figure if I'm mixing it with enough regular oil it should work just fine at colder temps. I'm going to put it outside and see what happens-it's been around 0 degrees the past few nights here!
                          Well, with those temps, you should know real quick what it'll do!
                          Greasin & Grinin
                          Vegi oil powered since Aug 08
                          2006 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Vegistroke converted 1/27/13!!
                          2008 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Sold
                          2005 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Sold

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by HORSEMOVER View Post
                            Look at the box closer - I believe that is just canola oil.
                            The ingredients are: "Liquid and Hydrogenated soybean oil, TBHQ and citric acid added to protect flavor, dimethylpolysiloxane, an anti-foaming agent added"
                            It also says, "Creamy, convenient, pourable especially for deep fat frying"
                            Late 1999 F350 CC LB ZF6
                            Vegistroke V3 w/ 80 gallon tank.

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                            • #15
                              That sounds like some sort of mix between regular vegetable oil and a PH oil. I've never run into that.

                              I think the labels on mine just read 100% soybean oil. They do have the other stuff you mentioned too...TBHQ, citric acid, etc.
                              Greasin & Grinin
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                              2006 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Vegistroke converted 1/27/13!!
                              2008 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Sold
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