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  • Oil Boiler on WVO?? Crazy thoughts

    Has anyone converted an oil boiler to run on wvo? Do you need to start with a waste oil boiler?? Is there any information that you know of that will show how to convert an oil boiler??? any links or feedback appreciated.

    I will be building a garage and looking to heat it and am thinking if I can convert an oil boiler I can also run a zone to heat my wvo for processing.

    If it all worked out and is reliable, maybe I could convince the wife that i'm not as crazy as she thought.

    I can't be the only one thinking that if you can run a vehicle on this stuff than why not heat the house??? Why not convert a diesel generator to run the power while you're at it???

    HEATING OIL $2,500/YR
    ELECTRIC $ 3,000/YR

    Could it work???
    2002 7.3 Excursion Limited V3 w/40 gal RDS Tank, +50 gal or 100 gal aux cargo tank,
    AFE Magnum Flow Air Intake, 4" Turbo back Diamondeye exhaust,
    6.0 Tranny cooler upgrade, Edge Evo2 Gryphon, V & Modified B Code leaf suspension
    BTS Transmission W/ 1.0 exhaust housing,Snow water/meth injection.Riffraff Engine Rebuild(kit) @315k .30 over pistons, CNC Fab HPOP, 406injectors.com 160cc single shots.

    2002 F350 2WD CCLB 7.3 Bone Stock "Rusty"

  • #2
    WVO boiler

    I have a Ag Soluytions B-150 that runs on WVO,great set-up,but hard to get anyone to work on it(EPA doesn't see WVO as a viable fuel).I would suggest a heated tank and fuel line,also beaware of "chicken Skin" issues.If this is something you need to have someone else work on,plumb two tanks,when service guy comes over switch to #2 or HHO.Also start with a UL approved Boiler or noone will touch it.I use the forced hot water lines as a pre-heater,and then coil fuel line under boiler(free heat)a few times to heat it more before going to burner unit.............Good luck..greasy
    2000 7.3X V3 So much fun,so little time,Support small Oil,burn WVO,Free and greasy down the road I go!!!!!!!!!!completely self sufficient and proud of it. (Wood furnace.....X.......solar pontoon....solarsheat twins this summer.....I don't Know much.......I'm just a hillbilly with too many guns..............

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    • #3
      Originally posted by billman View Post
      Has anyone converted an oil boiler to run on wvo? Do you need to start with a waste oil boiler?? Is there any information that you know of that will show how to convert an oil boiler??? any links or feedback appreciated.

      I will be building a garage and looking to heat it and am thinking if I can convert an oil boiler I can also run a zone to heat my wvo for processing.

      If it all worked out and is reliable, maybe I could convince the wife that i'm not as crazy as she thought.

      I can't be the only one thinking that if you can run a vehicle on this stuff than why not heat the house??? Why not convert a diesel generator to run the power while you're at it???

      HEATING OIL $2,500/YR
      ELECTRIC $ 3,000/YR

      Could it work???
      There are plans out there for a great (and cheap) waste oil burner but it's a forced air design. I suppose if you were really good you could adapt it to a boiler, but I'm guessing that the $$$ would go up quite a bit at that point. I think your best bet honestly is to pick up a waste oil burner-you might even be able to get one used. Simply heating the oil with a burner doesn't work well-you need compressed air to atomize it as well which gets complicated. Also, with a waste oil burner you're only limited by the amount of ATF/motor oil you can find. I get just enough WVO to keep me going week to week so I wouldn't have any to spare for heating.

      A genset is a little easier to run on various waste oils, but requires a lot of upfront investment. This guy has a great one:

      http://www.f1-rocketboy.com/lister.html

      Lister diesels are dirt simple and easy to operate. They're made to run in third world countries where good fuel, replacement parts, and experienced mechanics are hard to find. As a result they will run on anything short of mashed bananas, and a three year old with a crescent wrench could rebuild one. The page above links to a 16 HP Lister that drives a 12 KW generator. I plan to basically builld the same thing one of these days with a 275 gallon heating oil tank as the fuel tank. I'd fill the tank with maybe 25 gallons of clean # 2 fuel oil and then just add filtered motor oils, ATF, WVO, etc...as I could find them. Add a small diesel tank for cold startup and wa'la, instant home powerplant running on free fuel!
      Currently dieselless!

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      • #4
        Some Lister Diesel Links

        I've been researching this topic myself and thought I'd post some links to some interesting sites fer y'all:

        http://utterpower.com/

        http://www.centralmainediesel.com/or...sp?page=L09989

        http://www.poweranand.com/

        There is also an excellent Yahoo! Group that focus on this topic of converting home heaters to veg burners: altfuelfurnace

        I also recently found a Yahoo! Group dedicated to Lister engine/generator setups & Q&A: Lister_CSOG

        Enjoy,
        Eric
        '02 7.3L Excursion Limited; ~242Kmi total; ~157Kmi on WVO
        Vegistroke V3 (4/09); HIH, Aux Pump, FPHE (11/10); PHP Gryphon custom; 6637;
        WW; Turbomaster; EBPV delete; 4" exhaust; Terminator HPOP; Tru-cool; Evans NPG+;
        ARI triple-disc TC; V/B-code springs; Bilsteins; 30mm sway bar; 190A alternator; F650 dash; etc.

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        • #5
          Here's a photo of my oil furnace running on WMO and WVO. The furnace is temporary until I get the boiler all setup.

          2006 F-350 King Ranch Crew Cab Long Box 4x4
          2001 Excursion Limited 4x4
          2000 F-350 Lariat Crew Cab Long Box 4x4 ZF6, V4 March 2013

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          • #6
            Primary control before paint.

            2006 F-350 King Ranch Crew Cab Long Box 4x4
            2001 Excursion Limited 4x4
            2000 F-350 Lariat Crew Cab Long Box 4x4 ZF6, V4 March 2013

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            • #7
              I know you have a way bigger shop than me so space isnt as much an issue, but what are the dimensions of your burner unit?

              You've seen my garage, its jammed with shit. I'd love to burn some of my oil surplus for heat but I'm worried about the space I'd need to carve out.

              If you are building a compact, automated oil burner... I'm a buyer.
              05 Excursion EB - 6.0l - The Veggie Train
              199k - v3 scorpion 2 with SSB, TIH, rear tank is veg, 20 gal d2 frame tank from GMC, Dave's teflon hoses
              [02 F350 cclb - 270k - The White Bus - RIP]

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              • #8
                Here's a better shot of testing. I'm going to be using a tote for the fuel tank so that will take up the most room.

                Last edited by Bitterroot Diesel; 12-12-2015, 07:34 AM.
                2006 F-350 King Ranch Crew Cab Long Box 4x4
                2001 Excursion Limited 4x4
                2000 F-350 Lariat Crew Cab Long Box 4x4 ZF6, V4 March 2013

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                • #9
                  Sheeeee-it yeah!
                  05 Excursion EB - 6.0l - The Veggie Train
                  199k - v3 scorpion 2 with SSB, TIH, rear tank is veg, 20 gal d2 frame tank from GMC, Dave's teflon hoses
                  [02 F350 cclb - 270k - The White Bus - RIP]

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                  • #10
                    I have always wanted to set up a 2 zone system, 1 for pool and 1 to heat the house

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                    • #11
                      Finished the wiring today.



                      Last edited by Bitterroot Diesel; 01-01-2016, 02:31 PM.
                      2006 F-350 King Ranch Crew Cab Long Box 4x4
                      2001 Excursion Limited 4x4
                      2000 F-350 Lariat Crew Cab Long Box 4x4 ZF6, V4 March 2013

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                      • #12
                        In the photos you can see the air valve on the left. The primary control is on top. The PID on the bottom controls the temp of the nozzle heater block. I have a 1.5 GPH nozzle that is capable of 150,000 BTU.

                        Heater block comes from ckBurners.
                        2006 F-350 King Ranch Crew Cab Long Box 4x4
                        2001 Excursion Limited 4x4
                        2000 F-350 Lariat Crew Cab Long Box 4x4 ZF6, V4 March 2013

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                        • #13
                          That's really slick bro! It looks like you've retrofitted a traditional furnace?
                          2002 F-250 CC SRW Lariat 4x4
                          V-3, SSB
                          Check valve relo kit

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                          • #14
                            It's a lenox oil furnace.
                            2006 F-350 King Ranch Crew Cab Long Box 4x4
                            2001 Excursion Limited 4x4
                            2000 F-350 Lariat Crew Cab Long Box 4x4 ZF6, V4 March 2013

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