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    I live in a part of the country abutting canada, the last two border crossings i made ,on the way back i got hassled at the border, on last passage four (4) customs agents "checked" my tank for suspious goods,one fool stuck his finger in 170 degree oil and then licked his finger?are they busting my chops because tank is in cargo area?or is there a secret log with VINS and plate ### don't get me wrong I love this country!!!!! but don't like treatment at border what can I do? what are, if any my homeland sercurity amended US of A rights outta country?Any vegistroked boys in blue out there with a opinion. any thoughts on this subject???
    2000 7.3X V3 So much fun,so little time,Support small Oil,burn WVO,Free and greasy down the road I go!!!!!!!!!!completely self sufficient and proud of it. (Wood furnace.....X.......solar pontoon....solarsheat twins this summer.....I don't Know much.......I'm just a hillbilly with too many guns..............

  • #2
    Sure don't see a problem..... I would expect them to check my tank. For all they know you could have it loaded with cocaine or something. I have to admit that the Border guard that stuck his finger in there and then tasted it is about as dumb as a rock if he was "testing" it.
    2002 F250 7.3

    If it walks like a duck.....

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Allofus123 View Post
      "testing" it.
      Probably gave him a small case of the "green apple quick step"...

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      • #4
        border crossing

        I agree about the drug thing,but am concerned if they found it to be WVO,I don't want to get the guy who is being pissy for whatever reason (His life,wife,job,car....My un-emblemed diesel, whatever)busting me for transporting 36 gallons of FOOD across borders thats big nono up there, that amd fruits,or plants. I have always been told by all the old-school greasers (70's-81 gas crisis) that "THAT THERE IS A FOOD PRODUCT OCCIFUR TO FEED MY LIVESTOCK".would this be incriminating to state the same at the border.Or should I just add some LUCAS treatment,and Powerservice and say its B-99 or B-something or other.I only ask because the wifes Family is up there and we go at least 8 times a year.I feel like i'm doing something wrong,am I? grease out
        2000 7.3X V3 So much fun,so little time,Support small Oil,burn WVO,Free and greasy down the road I go!!!!!!!!!!completely self sufficient and proud of it. (Wood furnace.....X.......solar pontoon....solarsheat twins this summer.....I don't Know much.......I'm just a hillbilly with too many guns..............

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        • #5
          add some diesel to it, it will smell and taste like fuel.

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          • #6
            diesel in WVO tank

            The only concern I have is fumes from diesel,I have a two year old son who sits in second row daily,als his cousin rides in third row every week-end.I understand this will due away with Question or what fuel it is,just looking for healthiest option(thats why drive our Greasy X so much)......thanks for imput guys,I guess this will remain a "gray" area.Sometimes I think the government is making this hard on us because they know they can't tax us twice on WVO(tax was already paid when food was purchased that was cooked in oil),gotta love the constitution..............grease out
            2000 7.3X V3 So much fun,so little time,Support small Oil,burn WVO,Free and greasy down the road I go!!!!!!!!!!completely self sufficient and proud of it. (Wood furnace.....X.......solar pontoon....solarsheat twins this summer.....I don't Know much.......I'm just a hillbilly with too many guns..............

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            • #7
              I don't think diesel fumes would harm you...unlike gasoline.

              Why are the fumes getting out in the first place?

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              • #8
                fumes

                the fuel cap on my cargo area tank appears to be a vented cap,all the other lines go out bodybelow jack access(only had to cut access panel),and has complete silicone gasket(similar to factory spray "rubber")around it.But still smell WVO in cabin (a little ),could i be wrong and its the heater core? I had been told when that goes you smell fuel, Diesel,or WVO,in cabin....perhaps thats it .Clay I see you every ford site on the web,any chance its heater core?...............grease out
                2000 7.3X V3 So much fun,so little time,Support small Oil,burn WVO,Free and greasy down the road I go!!!!!!!!!!completely self sufficient and proud of it. (Wood furnace.....X.......solar pontoon....solarsheat twins this summer.....I don't Know much.......I'm just a hillbilly with too many guns..............

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                • #9
                  Yea Clay is everywhere.
                  Elvia the HandyMan
                  2000 F350 7.3 XL Dually utility/service truck
                  V3 March 2008

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                  • #10
                    Greasy border

                    I was just going thru some of these old forums and I came across this one. I don't know if you've already figured all this out greasyx, but I have some info on crossing the border with wvo. I just spoke to customs, border patrol, and an import specialist about the issue. I was asking about transporting wvo into the country in bulk for refining as a fuel. They told me it is perfectly legal and not considered a food product as it is a waste. I can haul under 1000 gallons and less than $2000 worth without any problems or fees. They only asked that I have a sticker on my tank stating what is in it, and an FDA guy may want to just take a look at it and speak to me. I did not specifically say, but certainly implied that I would be burning it at the time also and they didn't care at all. Your small tank should be no issue, it is still waste, you just took the pieces of chicken and fries out of it. Plus you are taking it in and out with you, not importing it. I plan to switch to diesel at the border just so the smell doesn't give them a reason to ask questions. I probably can't speak for you in court but that's what the officials told me.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by CHenry View Post
                      I don't think diesel fumes would harm you...unlike gasoline.

                      Why are the fumes getting out in the first place?
                      I doubt with just a few gallons that it'd be that noticeable either. Hard to say though.
                      Greasin & Grinin
                      Vegi oil powered since Aug 08
                      2006 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Vegistroke converted 1/27/13!!
                      2008 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Sold
                      2005 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Sold

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Marv View Post
                        I doubt with just a few gallons that it'd be that noticeable either. Hard to say though.
                        Diesel fumes are just as bad for you as gasoline! And if the whole VO tank is heated and vented into the cabin - then YES, there will be diesel fumes in the cabin. The diesel WILL evaporate out of the VO when hot.

                        It would be ideal to vent outside the cabin. Consider running vent hose up to a few inches highr than tank, then down thru the floor...
                        2001 F350 XLT 4x4, dually flatbed. 6637 air filter, single-shot injectors, straight-piped, BTS tunes, 200 gal main VO tank - 180k greasy miles
                        2000 Excursion Limited 4x4. V3, AIS intake, BTS trans & tunes - 120k VO miles
                        veggiegarage.com authorized installer

                        RIP X & Toyhauler - you served us well.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by skyskijason View Post
                          And if the whole VO tank is heated and vented into the cabin - then YES, there will be diesel fumes in the cabin.
                          My bad...I must have missed this in the original post. I thought it was vented to the outside of the vehicle.

                          Yeah, fumes in the car would be a problem...
                          Greasin & Grinin
                          Vegi oil powered since Aug 08
                          2006 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Vegistroke converted 1/27/13!!
                          2008 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Sold
                          2005 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Sold

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                          • #14
                            Has anybody run into problem with the police at all regarding the legality of burning WVO as a fuel? I have researched it online, and it seems that it is illegal because WVO isn't an EPA approved fuel-but is any cop really going to even know that? And why hasn't the EPA tested it as it's been around for so long?
                            Late 1999 F350 CC LB ZF6
                            Vegistroke V3 w/ 80 gallon tank.

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                            • #15
                              WVO isn't regulated... it is a waste product. There is no expected guarantee of quality or cleanliness.

                              I don't know how the gov could stop me from running an additive... a cop would have no idea. I could tell him it is biodiesel... he would have no idea.
                              Vegistrokin since 08/23/08

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