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  • A Few Glitches After Install But Running Great Now!

    The V3 is an amazing system with great customer support and now a forum to keep up on everyone's experiences. Doesn't get any better than this.

    Had a few glitches after install that I want to mention as possible help for new installers:

    When I did final checks on my system after install, found the pump was blowing fuses. Jason told me to take pump off and check gears for debris. Didn't find any debris, put the pump back on and it again blew fuses. Loosened the hold down bolts on the pump a bit and the pump began working. A day or two later I tightened the bolts more and the pump has been working great ever since.

    Fired up my system after getting the pump running and found it would not kick in automatically (no green light, no veg burning). Jason told me to check the pressure. Found the pressure to be a little less than 55 psi. Set the pressure to 65 psi and the system came on and functioned beautifully.

    Double checked the timer cards. Found the purge card to be off with the LED staying lit for a full 20 seconds. Reset to eight seconds with no problem. Found the engine run card only keeping the engine running for about 40 seconds. Tried to reset to 55 seconds, but could only get it to 49 seconds with maximum adjustment. Jason is working on a fix for this.

    Hope this will help anyone that may experience any of these bumps along the way. What a fantastic system!

    Patrick

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    Yes the V3 is Great. I installed mine in Early Feb. My only problem was a hose that was short. Great service from James and Jason. Great people. You might not know it, but there had always been a forum, but it was taken down by spammers. all info was lost when it went down. there is a great sense of family here. I am sure your glitch will be solved pretty quick.
    That was odd about the pump. Maybe it just took a little wearing in.
    My only problem was with my tank. both of the fittings were the same size, so it was a coin toss to figure out which one was the inlet.
    You'll be up and running in no time
    Elvia the HandyMan
    2000 F350 7.3 XL Dually utility/service truck
    V3 March 2008

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    • #3
      Elvia,

      Didn't know about the existance of the forum before. Sure am glad it is here again. Really appreciate the notification you provided to bring everyone back.

      Patrick

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      • #4
        Originally posted by lancaster,pa View Post
        Double checked the timer cards. Found the purge card to be off with the LED staying lit for a full 20 seconds. Reset to eight seconds with no problem. Found the engine run card only keeping the engine running for about 40 seconds. Tried to reset to 55 seconds, but could only get it to 49 seconds with maximum adjustment. Jason is working on a fix for this.
        Yep, same issue I'm having. Engine run max of 49 seconds on shut down. This left me with rough starts the next morning so I'm guessing I still have unburned VO on shut down. Jason gave me some instructions on switching the timer card from "seconds" mode to "minute" mode.
        ......find the dip switch box on the top timer card. There will be 4 little white switches in there that will be labeled 1,2,3, and 4. 1 should be off, and 2,3 and 4 will be on as it came from us. You will need to flip #2 to off as well. This changes the timing from 1-60 seconds to 1-60 minutes. Next turn the thumbwheel all the way CCW. Now start testing the run time, and move the thumbwheel in extremely small increments until you get close to a minute. You do not have to have the vehicle running to do this, only the key on.
        I flipped the dip switches as instructed and turned the dial all the way CCW and got a run time of only 37 seconds. LOL I then turned the dial one click CW and got a run time of 2mins 10 seconds. Nothing in between. I left it on 2 mins 10 seconds as I'd rather be certain I don't have any VO present in a cold start.
        2002 F250 7.3

        If it walks like a duck.....

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        • #5
          A longer run time is my prefered setting actually, the EGTs need to be down below 350 before you shut it down - that maybe old shcool thinking but i am old - so i watch my EGT guage and it takes longer than one minute for a good cooldown to occure. I set the switches and dial to get 2 minutes 15 seconds i think.
          If you don't want to do that and your only getting 50 seconds of run time, simply pump the throttle (after the 8 second purge) once or twice to burn more fuel out before it shuts off. You shouldn't have a rough start then.

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          • #6
            Allofus123,

            Thanks for the tip on increasing the time. I have also been experiencing rough starts after a 49 second shut down. Pretty sure I smell veg at the exhaust pipe outlet after only 49 seconds. I have compensated while a solution is being worked on by letting the engine shut down automatically at 49 seconds and then switching to manual, restarting and running for about 20 seconds additional. After shutting down the second time, I switch to auto so vehicle is ready to go next time. May just decide to go the way you did and avoid starting up again. Thanks again for the info.

            Patrick

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            • #7
              CHenry,

              Thanks for the info on the run time (didn't really think about the cool down). I could be mistaken but, I don't think you can increase engine speed by stepping on the throttle during the engine run after turning the key off. The one time I did try this, the engine stayed at idle even with pressure on the throttle.

              Patrick

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              • #8
                Originally posted by lancaster,pa View Post
                CHenry,

                Thanks for the info on the run time (didn't really think about the cool down). I could be mistaken but, I don't think you can increase engine speed by stepping on the throttle during the engine run after turning the key off. The one time I did try this, the engine stayed at idle even with pressure on the throttle.
                Patrick
                Thats very odd? Why would it not throttle up?

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                • #9
                  Don't know. Thought it was a characteristic of where the system connects to the engine run wire on the 7.3. Could just be something with my vehicle. Appreciate it if anyone else could give it a try on their vehicle and then post here.

                  Thanks - Patrick

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                  • #10
                    No problem here with revving the engine while in shutdown mode.

                    I have done both of what you two have done.... after shut down restarting with the system off for a little bit and during sutdown revving the engine. Both of those required you to stay with the vehicle. I muched prefer just extending the run time so I can "walk away" when I turn the key off.
                    2002 F250 7.3

                    If it walks like a duck.....

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                    • #11
                      shutting down and then restarting is a bad idea. 100% more wear on starter and batteries.
                      If you can't rev it up once durring runtime - which i can't imagine why you can't - then i would suggest setting the dip switches to 2 minutes. It will not use a noticable amount of extra diesel in that extra minute of idleing. 1 oz per minute i believe is what Jason said these engines burn at idle. And your turbo will last you longer since you will be cooling it down nicely before shutting it off.

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                      • #12
                        Revving the engine durring the 50 second timed shutdown doesn't require you to stay with the vehicle. wait till the purge time has ended (8 seconds) so you know the heads have diesel in them rather than vegi and simply rev the engine once - burning a larger amount of fuel than just idle and then exit the vehicle and let it shuit down after the remaining runtime is up. Jason has told me 60 seconds is long enough to completely burn the vegi out of those injectors but 50 seconds is not...10 extra seconds or one rev up will do it.

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                        • #13
                          Allofus123,

                          Are you running the 7.3? What year?

                          Thanks - Patrick

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by lancaster,pa View Post
                            Allofus123,
                            Are you running the 7.3? What year?
                            2002 F250 7.3

                            Hopefully we can get some facts. Does anyone know exactly how much VO is left to burn after the purge cycle?

                            I did the revving after the purge cycle when I had it in the "seconds" mode with the 49 second shutdown and I still had rough starts in the mornings. I made the switch to the longer two minute run time a few days ago and I've had mixed results with my rough start. I'd swear I'm still smelling VO on start up. The problem I'm having in pin pointing the rough starts is that I don't always have to go somewhere in my truck first thing in the morning. If my first start up of the day is noon the outside temp is 98 and I've never had an issue, even at the shorter shutdown time, at those tempertures. Its when everything cools down < 80 is when I see my rough starts.
                            2002 F250 7.3

                            If it walks like a duck.....

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                            • #15
                              I will have to check mine also, I timed it at about 52 seconds. some mornings it does start hard.
                              Elvia the HandyMan
                              2000 F350 7.3 XL Dually utility/service truck
                              V3 March 2008

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