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  • PLEASE change your CPS!

    My wife very nearly went off the mountain on her way to class this morning. Seriously. This was way too close friends. Her truck just 'shut off' as she was coming downhill on a sharp curve - she lost brakes and steering. Luckily the e-brake and a troop of angels were nearby to save her from going off a cliff.

    This is THE REASON the NTSB mandated Ford to do this recall. I participated in a survey and recieved a call from NTSB before this became a recall. Although I did not have a story like my unfortunate wife now has (thats what they were looking for when they called), I did tell them my truck had shut-off unexpectedly several times since I've owned it. (It has not done it once in 50k since 'new style' CPS).

    Listen, it is a $15 part (powerstrokeshop.com) and YOU can change it in 10 min w/no more than a 10mm wrench OR you can spend a couple hours at a stealership and they will install it for you - FREE. Please, don't wait any longer - I PROMISE I WISH I HADN'T!!

    Ya know, as freaked out as I am right now - I can't imagine how these other so-called vo conversion companies can sleep at nite. I just saw ANOTHER conversion the other day that WILL leave someone on the side of the road (again) someday. I only hope they are lucky enough to make it safely to the side of the road and not be killed there while 'fixing' issues with an inherently poor conversion design and installation. I am very confident about the V3 and REALLY, REALLY like the whole 'redundant fuels' design...
    2001 F350 XLT 4x4, dually flatbed. 6637 air filter, single-shot injectors, straight-piped, BTS tunes, 200 gal main VO tank - 180k greasy miles
    2000 Excursion Limited 4x4. V3, AIS intake, BTS trans & tunes - 120k VO miles
    veggiegarage.com authorized installer

    RIP X & Toyhauler - you served us well.

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    Crank Position Sensor?

    I'm lost here...help me out?
    Greasin & Grinin
    Vegi oil powered since Aug 08
    2006 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Vegistroke converted 1/27/13!!
    2008 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Sold
    2005 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Sold

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    • #3
      Lil piece of plastic that causes big headache on all 7.3s(99.5-03).I have heard advocates of the new CPS and people agaist them as well.I have had my scare as well(6,000 lbs of WVO behind GREASYX and she died,I am glad i have alot of hauling experience or GREASYX would be in EXCURSION heaven....................greasyx
      2000 7.3X V3 So much fun,so little time,Support small Oil,burn WVO,Free and greasy down the road I go!!!!!!!!!!completely self sufficient and proud of it. (Wood furnace.....X.......solar pontoon....solarsheat twins this summer.....I don't Know much.......I'm just a hillbilly with too many guns..............

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      • #4
        So I take it the crank position sensor takes a dump on you, which results in the truck dying, correct?

        I've got an 05, but I'd still like to know in the event I pick up a 7.3 one day for myself or my Dad.
        Greasin & Grinin
        Vegi oil powered since Aug 08
        2006 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Vegistroke converted 1/27/13!!
        2008 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Sold
        2005 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Sold

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        • #5
          marv- It's the 1 reason you can be happy to have a 6.0l :-D
          2005 6.0l X
          V3 running 8/6/08
          40gal frame mounted tank

          Live by the grease, die by the grease

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          • #6
            Cam Position Sensor.
            They go out like light bulbs...suddenly and completely.
            You don't have to worry Marv.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by CHenry View Post
              Cam Position Sensor.
              They go out like light bulbs...suddenly and completely.
              You don't have to worry Marv.

              Alright cool...it's cam, not crank. Thanks for the clarification! :cheers:
              Greasin & Grinin
              Vegi oil powered since Aug 08
              2006 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Vegistroke converted 1/27/13!!
              2008 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Sold
              2005 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Sold

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Wilson View Post
                marv- It's the 1 reason you can be happy to have a 6.0l :-D
                Haha...well, from what most folks say, the reasons are few.

                But, I gotta admit, I've been really happy with mine so far...hope it keeps up!
                Greasin & Grinin
                Vegi oil powered since Aug 08
                2006 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Vegistroke converted 1/27/13!!
                2008 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Sold
                2005 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Sold

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by CHenry View Post
                  Cam Position Sensor.
                  They go out like light bulbs...suddenly and completely.
                  You don't have to worry Marv.
                  Yes, they can - often never to work again. Lots of times this is 1rst suggestion in a no-start situation. But, like my F350 - factory original lasted over 200k miles and just caused truck to shut off a few times. Lori said the Excursion fired right back up - sometimes CPS just has an occaisional glitch and does not even throw a code. Out of the times my truck died, I only got a cps code once - many folks could not believe it still ran after that.

                  To be honest, the 'keep a spare cps in glove box' advice many of the PSD forums recommend is a little far-fetched IMHO. I know way more people w/a 'spare' cps than I know who have ever needed one. Statistically, it is not that common a failure, but considering how many of our First Responders depend on this engine and the number of crashes attributed to them - the NTSB mandated the recall. I also have to wonder why price went from nearly $100 for CPS to $15 just before recall?? The 'new one' is supposed to be better.

                  Yeah, I still don't think thats a good reason to go 6.0 , but just like cps failures - there are plenty of 6.0's out there that never had any problems. I think the issues are often out of proportion on the forums because people gravitate toward them only when they have problems... (of course ford did 'buy back' 5-600 trucks and had astronomical complaints in '05/'06 so some concerns are validated by that!)
                  2001 F350 XLT 4x4, dually flatbed. 6637 air filter, single-shot injectors, straight-piped, BTS tunes, 200 gal main VO tank - 180k greasy miles
                  2000 Excursion Limited 4x4. V3, AIS intake, BTS trans & tunes - 120k VO miles
                  veggiegarage.com authorized installer

                  RIP X & Toyhauler - you served us well.

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                  • #10
                    I had mine changed last year and the dealership did it in a day.
                    2000 F250 7.3L
                    Vegistroke installed July 12, 2008

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                    • #11
                      Had mine changed also. Any idea how reliable the new ones have been so far? - Patrick

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                      • #12
                        Call any local dealership with your VIN and if you need one they will schedule you for it.
                        Vegistrokin since 08/23/08

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                        • #13
                          it literally takes 10 minutes to do yourself.

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                          • #14
                            First batch of "GRAYS" had a issue throwing SES lights and were not designed with long lead injectors in mind .My second batch CPS wasn't to bad,currently running International BLUE DT466 CPS as a experiment in MPG.........greasy
                            2000 7.3X V3 So much fun,so little time,Support small Oil,burn WVO,Free and greasy down the road I go!!!!!!!!!!completely self sufficient and proud of it. (Wood furnace.....X.......solar pontoon....solarsheat twins this summer.....I don't Know much.......I'm just a hillbilly with too many guns..............

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by greasyX View Post
                              First batch of "GRAYS" had a issue throwing SES lights and were not designed with long lead injectors in mind .My second batch CPS wasn't to bad,currently running International BLUE DT466 CPS as a experiment in MPG.........greasy
                              You can read enough on this subject to make your head spin at TDS, FTE, etc. There was alot of debate about the blue CPS in particular - iirc, the consensus was it 'may' retard timing a couple degrees...

                              Lori just got a new CPS installed at dealer, they told her NOT to drive back over the mountain - they WILL work her in! How cool is that! Guess their industry is hurtin' so bad they are actually into customer service these days... (especially for a warranty item on 8yr old truck w/180k miles!) The tech said he couldn't check/scan to verify CPS was good because 'her chip would act like a paperweight'... I told her we'll run a full scan when I get home. I haven't even run a KORE or BUZZ test or anything on that truck yet! I flew to Houston and picked it up, drove home 500ish miles, loaded family and gear for 2 mth trip out west and left on said trip 72hrs after taking possesion of it! While in Seattle we installed V3, etc and drove it home on grease. I flew back to Seattle and should have been home again a couple weeks later (now 2.5 mths later!!) I was planning to just do the CPS myself along with all the other things it 'needs'.
                              2001 F350 XLT 4x4, dually flatbed. 6637 air filter, single-shot injectors, straight-piped, BTS tunes, 200 gal main VO tank - 180k greasy miles
                              2000 Excursion Limited 4x4. V3, AIS intake, BTS trans & tunes - 120k VO miles
                              veggiegarage.com authorized installer

                              RIP X & Toyhauler - you served us well.

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