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    Jason/James,

    I was looking around for Donaldson filters locally in case I needed one in a pinch. The International dealer told me that there is a direct cross to this:

    FleetGuard FF211.

    I guess I have two questions.

    1.) Is the Fleetguard filter a viable alternative to the Donaldson for V3 application?
    2.) Do you guys actually care if we buy elsewhere. I only ask because I am happy to spend my money with you guys, but I can't imagine you are making much profit on them. If that is the case, then I am just paying FedEx for the privilege and causing you more hassle in handling. Buying a case at a time might be the answer.

    Thanks,

    Ben
    2005 F350 Harley: Heat Induction Hood, ARE Bed Cover, DashHawk, MBRP turbo back, cat delete, SCT: Tunes by Spartan, Exhaust Sound Videos HERE

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    I am using a Baldor cross ref filter.
    Elvia the HandyMan
    2000 F350 7.3 XL Dually utility/service truck
    V3 March 2008

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    • #3
      Be very,very careful with cross-ref filters some are just the same thread and size but are made for motor oil, not WVO or fuelThese are not designed for the pressure,and could have ferrous metals inside.Go to a heavy truck place and tell them what YOU want and that you are not afraid to wait a week for it.Some of those places are so used to "i need it now",or "i got a load to haul" that they try to put something in your hand now,if your paying top dollar make sure it is something you want and not a POS..................just a old trucker spreading the word............grease out
      2000 7.3X V3 So much fun,so little time,Support small Oil,burn WVO,Free and greasy down the road I go!!!!!!!!!!completely self sufficient and proud of it. (Wood furnace.....X.......solar pontoon....solarsheat twins this summer.....I don't Know much.......I'm just a hillbilly with too many guns..............

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      • #4
        Well greasyx
        If you go somewhere and ask for a cross ref for a fuel filter, and a part number do you really think they will give you a oil filter?
        Its like going to a bar and asking for a Coors and they give you a Bud light. totally different animal.
        Elvia the HandyMan
        2000 F350 7.3 XL Dually utility/service truck
        V3 March 2008

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        • #5
          I know and you know,but some parts-bin flunkies don't.they merely read thread,pitch,diameter:cheers:
          2000 7.3X V3 So much fun,so little time,Support small Oil,burn WVO,Free and greasy down the road I go!!!!!!!!!!completely self sufficient and proud of it. (Wood furnace.....X.......solar pontoon....solarsheat twins this summer.....I don't Know much.......I'm just a hillbilly with too many guns..............

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          • #6
            Ben and others- GreasyX has it exatly right. Just because there is a cross doesn't mean the filter is made to the same specifications. There is so much to a filter it'll make your head spin. The actual filter micron rating itself varies greatly, with the donaldson being the best. You also have flow rate, pressure drop, external burst pressure, internal collapse pressure, media type and treatment, media surface area, particulate holding capacity, type of glue, and a few more that i am sure I am missing. Lot of crap for a simple filter. Just because it screws on doesn't make it equal. Officially I always recomend using the donaldson that comes with the system. Off the record I would be lying if I said I hadn't used a Napa(wix) or Baldwin alternate while on a trip.. Just avoid Fram whatever you do!!

            Ben- Buying one or two at a time from us does not make any sense nor will our feelings be hurt if you find them elsewhere. You are right, we don't make a thing on the filters. Buying them by the case just barely works out for us and the buyer.
            Last edited by Fordnut74; 09-24-2008, 11:24 PM.
            1999 F-350 Lariat 7.3 385,000 miles and counting
            2000 VW Jetta 2.0
            1966 Jeep J-300 with EFI 351W

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            • #7
              thank you jason

              I don't know everything,and am the first to admit it,but I know trucks,trucking and anything that has to do with it.I have1.5 million,yes million miles behind a spicer 5+2,as well as many more with cummins and International engines moving me down the road.I am the trucker you flash to pass,the one that gave you directions,I am a teamster,and here to help all...........I may seem brash,but i want to share info you can use and archive,you guys are probably the only chance for diesels to stay on the roads(EPA),and as everyone that has conversed with me knows WE are the last of a breed,call it preservation.......
              2000 7.3X V3 So much fun,so little time,Support small Oil,burn WVO,Free and greasy down the road I go!!!!!!!!!!completely self sufficient and proud of it. (Wood furnace.....X.......solar pontoon....solarsheat twins this summer.....I don't Know much.......I'm just a hillbilly with too many guns..............

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              • #8
                Anyone consider a group buy? I'd be in for a case...

                We have 100 members...

                If we avg'd 1/2 a case we could be looking at serious discounts.
                Vegistrokin since 08/23/08

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jack_Toepfer View Post
                  Anyone consider a group buy? I'd be in for a case...

                  We have 100 members...

                  If we avg'd 1/2 a case we could be looking at serious discounts.
                  sure, I would be in. It would have to be like 1/2 case, else the shipping would be a deal breaker.
                  2005 F350 Harley: Heat Induction Hood, ARE Bed Cover, DashHawk, MBRP turbo back, cat delete, SCT: Tunes by Spartan, Exhaust Sound Videos HERE

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                  • #10
                    This is something I probably wouldn't take a chance with. To me, the Donaldson is your last line of defense from getting something nasty in your engine. If you can find them through DFA (at a reasonable price), why take a chance and save a few bucks?

                    Speaking of which, I need to order some. I think I'm going to order them 5 or 10 at a time.
                    Greasin & Grinin
                    Vegi oil powered since Aug 08
                    2006 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Vegistroke converted 1/27/13!!
                    2008 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Sold
                    2005 F-250 PSD - CC, Lariat, 4X4 - Sold

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Jack_Toepfer View Post
                      Anyone consider a group buy? I'd be in for a case...

                      We have 100 members...

                      If we avg'd 1/2 a case we could be looking at serious discounts.
                      I have a buddy in the filter business. We can get the Donaldson P555823 for $10.20 each plus shipping. If you are in TX he would have to charge you tax.

                      Send me a pm with qty and shipping address and I will get him to send you a quote.
                      2000 F250 7.3L
                      Vegistroke installed July 12, 2008

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                      • #12
                        Jack -

                        Count me in on a group buy.

                        I still got my spare donaldson and coming up on 3k grease miles on original...guessing its gonna need replacing soon?

                        Anyway, maybe make a new thread and start listing members names that are in on it? Mybe make it a sticky
                        2005 6.0l X
                        V3 running 8/6/08
                        40gal frame mounted tank

                        Live by the grease, die by the grease

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by triplemoutdoors View Post
                          I have a buddy in the filter business. We can get the Donaldson P555823 for $10.20 each plus shipping. If you are in TX he would have to charge you tax.

                          Send me a pm with qty and shipping address and I will get him to send you a quote.
                          Thanks for the offer.

                          Honestly though, I was hoping for a very large order - one we could contact Donalson with. Let them know what we're doing with them and get some corporate backing on this little thing called Vegistroke.

                          I think they would be all over it.
                          Vegistrokin since 08/23/08

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Jack_Toepfer View Post
                            Thanks for the offer.

                            Honestly though, I was hoping for a very large order - one we could contact Donalson with. Let them know what we're doing with them and get some corporate backing on this little thing called Vegistroke.

                            I think they would be all over it.
                            I am not sure Donaldson would undermine their distributors and wholesalers and sell to us. If everyone on the site ordered 6 (and not eveyone would) that would only be 600 filters. That is a very small order.

                            This was taken from their web site---
                            "Products used on diesel engines are sold direct to original equipment manufacturers (OEMs), such as engine and vehicle makers, and via authorized distributors and original equipment (OE) dealers for aftermarket replacement filters, mufflers and hard parts."

                            As a group or forum we do not meet their qualifications. DFA does so our best bet is to continue to order from DFA or our local sources that each of us has. $10.20 is the best price I have found.

                            Jack what price are you expecting to pay?
                            2000 F250 7.3L
                            Vegistroke installed July 12, 2008

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                            • #15
                              Ipurchase mine by the case locally,from heavy truck center,$10 each,no shipping,no BS
                              2000 7.3X V3 So much fun,so little time,Support small Oil,burn WVO,Free and greasy down the road I go!!!!!!!!!!completely self sufficient and proud of it. (Wood furnace.....X.......solar pontoon....solarsheat twins this summer.....I don't Know much.......I'm just a hillbilly with too many guns..............

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