Donaldson Filter Alternative

[FastCote]

Jason/James,

I was looking around for Donaldson filters locally in case I needed one in a pinch. The International dealer told me that there is a direct cross to this:

FleetGuard FF211.

I guess I have two questions.

1.) Is the Fleetguard filter a viable alternative to the Donaldson for V3 application?
2.) Do you guys actually care if we buy elsewhere. I only ask because I am happy to spend my money with you guys, but I can't imagine you are making much profit on them. If that is the case, then I am just paying FedEx for the privilege and causing you more hassle in handling. Buying a case at a time might be the answer.

Thanks,

Ben

[Elvia]

I am using a Baldor cross ref filter.

[greasyX]

Be very,very careful with cross-ref filters some are just the same thread and size but are made for motor oil, not WVO or fuelThese are not designed for the pressure,and could have ferrous metals inside.Go to a heavy truck place and tell them what YOU want and that you are not afraid to wait a week for it.Some of those places are so used to "i need it now",or "i got a load to haul" that they try to put something in your hand now,if your paying top dollar make sure it is something you want and not a POS..................just a old trucker spreading the word............grease out

[Elvia]

Well greasyx
If you go somewhere and ask for a cross ref for a fuel filter, and a part number do you really think they will give you a oil filter?
Its like going to a bar and asking for a Coors and they give you a Bud light. totally different animal.

[greasyX]

I know and you know,but some parts-bin flunkies don't.they merely read thread,pitch,diameter:cheers:

[Fordnut74]

Ben and others- GreasyX has it exatly right. Just because there is a cross doesn't mean the filter is made to the same specifications. There is so much to a filter it'll make your head spin. The actual filter micron rating itself varies greatly, with the donaldson being the best. You also have flow rate, pressure drop, external burst pressure, internal collapse pressure, media type and treatment, media surface area, particulate holding capacity, type of glue, and a few more that i am sure I am missing. Lot of crap for a simple filter. Just because it screws on doesn't make it equal. Officially I always recomend using the donaldson that comes with the system. Off the record I would be lying if I said I hadn't used a Napa(wix) or Baldwin alternate while on a trip.. Just avoid Fram whatever you do!!

Ben- Buying one or two at a time from us does not make any sense nor will our feelings be hurt if you find them elsewhere. You are right, we don't make a thing on the filters. Buying them by the case just barely works out for us and the buyer.

[greasyX]

thank you jason

I don't know everything,and am the first to admit it,but I know trucks,trucking and anything that has to do with it.I have1.5 million,yes million miles behind a spicer 5+2,as well as many more with cummins and International engines moving me down the road.I am the trucker you flash to pass,the one that gave you directions,I am a teamster,and here to help all...........I may seem brash,but i want to share info you can use and archive,you guys are probably the only chance for diesels to stay on the roads(EPA),and as everyone that has conversed with me knows WE are the last of a breed,call it preservation.......

[Jack_Toepfer]

Anyone consider a group buy? I'd be in for a case...

We have 100 members...

If we avg'd 1/2 a case we could be looking at serious discounts.

[FastCote]

Anyone consider a group buy? I'd be in for a case...

We have 100 members...

If we avg'd 1/2 a case we could be looking at serious discounts.

sure, I would be in. It would have to be like 1/2 case, else the shipping would be a deal breaker.

[Marv]

This is something I probably wouldn't take a chance with. To me, the Donaldson is your last line of defense from getting something nasty in your engine. If you can find them through DFA (at a reasonable price), why take a chance and save a few bucks?

Speaking of which, I need to order some. I think I'm going to order them 5 or 10 at a time.

[triplemoutdoors]

Anyone consider a group buy? I'd be in for a case...

We have 100 members...

If we avg'd 1/2 a case we could be looking at serious discounts.

I have a buddy in the filter business. We can get the Donaldson P555823 for $10.20 each plus shipping. If you are in TX he would have to charge you tax.

Send me a pm with qty and shipping address and I will get him to send you a quote.

[Wilson]

Jack -

Count me in on a group buy.

I still got my spare donaldson and coming up on 3k grease miles on original...guessing its gonna need replacing soon?

Anyway, maybe make a new thread and start listing members names that are in on it? Mybe make it a sticky

[Jack_Toepfer]

I have a buddy in the filter business. We can get the Donaldson P555823 for $10.20 each plus shipping. If you are in TX he would have to charge you tax.

Send me a pm with qty and shipping address and I will get him to send you a quote.

Thanks for the offer.

Honestly though, I was hoping for a very large order - one we could contact Donalson with. Let them know what we're doing with them and get some corporate backing on this little thing called Vegistroke.

I think they would be all over it.

[triplemoutdoors]

Thanks for the offer.

Honestly though, I was hoping for a very large order - one we could contact Donalson with. Let them know what we're doing with them and get some corporate backing on this little thing called Vegistroke.

I think they would be all over it.

I am not sure Donaldson would undermine their distributors and wholesalers and sell to us. If everyone on the site ordered 6 (and not eveyone would) that would only be 600 filters. That is a very small order.

This was taken from their web site---
"Products used on diesel engines are sold direct to original equipment manufacturers (OEMs), such as engine and vehicle makers, and via authorized distributors and original equipment (OE) dealers for aftermarket replacement filters, mufflers and hard parts."

As a group or forum we do not meet their qualifications. DFA does so our best bet is to continue to order from DFA or our local sources that each of us has. $10.20 is the best price I have found.

Jack what price are you expecting to pay?

[greasyX]

Ipurchase mine by the case locally,from heavy truck center,$10 each,no shipping,no BS